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reforms for the long term that get us on a path to reducing debt and deficit. the issue is can't we get the president to sit down with us and not tell us it's our way or the highway or his way or the highway? that doesn't produce the kind of collaborative response to a problem. >> so i don't know whose highway specifically he wants to be on here but the bottom line is congressman walden sees at least from his vantage point that the debt limit should be tied to spending cuts and that's the road he'd like to pursue. where are things right now? >> well, here's where things are right now and the president's been very clear. the president's willing to negotiate a way to reduce the debt through a combination of cuts, but also, through tax reform. but what he's not willing to negotiate and he should not noer negotiate is over whether the congress pays for the bills. the congress is saying if we don't make the changes the way they want to, they're threatening to tank the united states economy. again, the debt ceiling, it is really important that people understand, this is not about expanding yo
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